You do you. Have you considered age category racing. 2022 SNOW Sprint Series This is pretty timely for me as my FTP is 283 and my weight is currently 71.2kg. Work over time is work over time. what does help identify and stop cheats is formalizing race series and having them use an organization like Zada (whether effective now or not, this is the correct path). In fact, the only riders at or below my w/kg were minutes off the back. Many riders is talking about cheating, when someone enters a lower category but it's not, in my opinion. If someone on zwift holds an avg power at a given heart rate, then goes out on the road and holds that same heart rate but cannot sustain even close to that power, I am sorry, but that isnt physiology; that is hardware. True, but not necessarily in the way you think. Case in point: in the A race I mentioned, only one rider was heavier than my 85kg dad bod. You weigh 80kg and have an FTP of 248 watts, which works out to 3.1 w/kg. How big of a problem is reverse weight doping? The winners are almost always people with recorded weights sub 70kgs, more typically 65kgs, even 59! Not too many people actually want to see other peoples height or weight except to be able to verify race results are reasonable. As we said in the first post, "Assuming race organizers can access the data via ZwiftPower, and the site includes simple tools for spotting potential weight or height dopers (perhaps flagging those who made dramatic changes recently), then hiding weight and height data from the public should work swimmingly." In some cases this even happens unfairly. Bikecalculator suggests not Go to http://bikecalculator.com/ enter an 85kg rider, riding on the drops for 16.2kms (ie an ITT) leaving all else unchanged. I was just naturally heavy and it put me at the top of the C class in w/kg. I was wondering is it possible to get the graph at the bottom of the screen that shows youre power and other stuff on a normal ride and not doing a FTP test or workout. Eric runs Zwift Insider in his spare time when he isn't on the bike or managing various business interests. If other people want to obsess about my weight thats up to them but I wont. The issues with e-racing remain the same, and largely ignored for years now. It certainly didnt feel like I had taken it easy when IRead more . But without any hard and fast rules, we cant say anything is illegalat least for certain races. I disagree with you on this point. I have seen riders weighting 56 kgs and week later they are 35 kgs. I never thought i should weigh myself with my kit on. Current system means that heavy weight top of cat riders climb at the same speed as skinny guys with same wpk but can have 60% more power on the flats. Read on for our guide on how the app works, how to get set up, and how to analyse your racing. I would say 1kg or more is more normal. Prior to joining the team, he had written for most major publications in the cycling world, including CyclingWeekly, Rouleur, and CyclingTips. It lets Zwift racers and race organisers track results and check out all the details of the races they've participated in, as well as monitoring and analysing their data. . Seeing someone race cat A/B on Zwift and then be at the back of the age group pack in a local tri/ bike race canRead more , I understand what you are saying, but the average racer who can legitimately churn out x watts/ kilo for minutes on end will be doing more with that than just being a zwift warrior (if they are getting onto the road to really ride and not just commute), and, traffic lights or not, their real-world rides will at least give resemblance to their zwift output, even if only for certain segments at a time. Im 170cm and currently 61kg with an ideal triathlon racing weight of 59kg. The license would be needed to participate in ranked races, however if you dont have a license, other races would be available to participate in. I dont mind the low HRs but the low power and high w/kg really irk me! So what! I havent even used my road bike outdoors since 2012. Certainly it impacts the accuracy of race performance and results. The rule set for the categories is so simple yet Id bet >99% dont understand it, to my knowledge cyclingRead more . (Its not the only part, of course! Share your thoughts below, and you may also wish to share those thoughts on the actual forum post. Living at 5,900 ft. adds a performance restriction on me, I get it. As far as my weight goes the only thing I care about is being as accurate as I can to get accurate results. We remain committed to protecting the health and well being of the broader Zwift Community, and we look forward to enacting additional measures in the future. Why dont you start self-regulating then? My 3.9w/kg (a new PR!) Would achieve the same thing. When you're in the game, click "Menu". Ive connected my garmin scale with this app https://smartscalesync.com/?utm_source=tr It impacts the Group Rides and as you said the performance statistics individually. Id never do this as my Zwift Power is an accurate log of weight and power but it does make me wonder how much easier itd be to be bigger. Even at my age I still plan to compete in MTB races when the world gets back to racing. It is obviously a stupid thing ( weight doping) and why a rider would do this is beyond me but pride and quasi Strava bragging or Zwift Power bragging is a thing. Daniel Ostanek is production editor at Cyclingnews, having joined in 2017 as a freelance contributor and later being hired as staff writer. its only cheating myself, instead I would prefer to spend that 2 painful hours doing something honestly and feel proud of it than zooming through it in sub 60m and not reap the same benefits (or in my case, pain). As we said in the first post, Assuming race organizers can access the data via ZwiftPower, and the site includes simple tools for spotting potential weight or height dopers (perhaps flagging those who made dramatic changes recently), then hiding weight and height data from the public should work swimmingly.. One question I have struggled to answer though which maybe is not a consideration is that on the flat watts is what is required and I also have to push high wkg to stay with groups. Racing on the Zwift virtual platform has only increased, with the professionals getting in on the act, too, via the Zwift Tour for All, the Virtual Tour of the Gila, and e-races organised by Team Ineos. For example the threshold for cat B is FTP over 200 watts and over 3.2 w/kg. Would depend entirely upon the bike geometry, how much weight is over the front wheel and how much over the back. I dont think it can all be attributed to weight; it appears that some hardware tweaks can scale up the reported power output. Now in A i get dropped all the time. I tried racing a D race, and finished way off the front behind about 2/3 of riders after Id ridden at 2.9W/kg for the race. Goodness. That guy who weighs 300lbs and gets 1st place in Cs for a month straight should be automatically upgraded to Bs and Bs to As. Hide the weight who cares let them upgrade all the way to As where you have strict reporting requirements. I am about to hit the four year mark on Zwift. Hi, very impressive w/kg at 65. The COVID-19 lockdown period, now in its third month around the world, has seen an unprecedented boom in virtual cycling. Check out this FAQ for some of our frequently asked questions: Q:&. I wouldnt personally do it since it throws off training metrics and just isnt true. ), So what is reverse weight doping? I guess I shouldnt be surprised. I should mention: many Zwifters have lied about their in-game weight for perfectly acceptable reasons. The categories are power to weight divisions. Ive seen many A Riders with 300 FTP on Zwift who I beat by a HUGE MARGIN at triathlon events, including the cycling portion. Tough to recover after attacks in a race when youre always near maxing out. Some people are clearly living in a fantasy on zwift. You should do much better at your actual weight in that case. seeing a riders weight in ZP and any changes made to the reported weight may help internet stalkers feel better about their poor race performance but it doesnt actually help identify cheats. Introducing a horrible measure that addresses a problem that doesnt exist, and subsequently retracting it following mass protest is not exactly what I would call revolutionary change. this is how it is in real life , big ian stannard putting in hard fast miles on the front for (was) team sky , while all the small guys tuck in the peloton getting drafted along saving energy for later on in the race , because they can`t compete on the flat with the big boys . Weight doping is only a serious issue when its done in competition. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. light guys categorically do NOT have an advantage on the flats vs heavier guys, assuming both riding at same w/kg, heavy guy WILL be going faster on Zwift. Whats the cheaters solution? I have been light and I have been heavy. I am in the 5 percentile of height and weight at 52 and 130lb with my lowest weight of 118 lbs in my racing career. However, I definitely recommend entering some races. Too heavy watts are up but watts per kilo goes down. there seems to be a lot of variability in power products and what people are using to feed into zwift. If people want to cheat, they will and can do so in any uncontrolled situation. Even if Id ridden at threshold a little over 4 W/kg, I wouldnt have been able to hang onto the front in a D race, it seems. It this fair? The book Fast After 50 is a good read on how masters athletes can train more effectively. Now I know it is a thing. If its not done during a competitive Zwift event, I dont see it as a problem. Im a heavy rider at 102kgs and 193cm tall I once reverse doped my weight at the top of the radio tower to try and achieve the 100km/HR badge It had the opposite effect in that I was actually slower than when descending at my actual weight lol I dont race other than against myself so Ive never weight doped as such My observations recently however have created an awareness of how many stick insects ride bikes on zwift . The only trouble is the downhill doesnt take as long of course, so the light advantage is obviously better. 240W 50kg riders (4.8W/kg) beat 380W 95kg riders in B category Tempus Fugit time trials. I think the main problem with women and weight on zwift is regular weightdoping, magnified probably by all the wonderful social stigmas and judgment surrounding womens bodies. I rode outside last night, and Im sure I will again soon. Ive done multiple races where my main goal was to keep the watts as low as possible while hanging with the front group. Exactly. Though our intent is to protect potentially vulnerable users by removing labels that can trigger unhealthy behaviour What are they trying to protect? Thank you for signing up to The Pick. EDIT Found my answer: 250w, Theres a chart about halfway down this page: https://zwiftpower.com/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=5528. If you need to cheat to get the results you want then why even bother. indispensabile essere sinceri nel dichiarare il proprio peso , per se stessi e per il rispetto degli altri . As a Triathlete, I have a different perspective when racing and riding on Zwift because the vast majority of Zwifters (according to Zwift and Strava) are only cycling; whereas Im also training by Running and Swimming. Nice work! Threshold HR is around 151 bpm. (Example: if your FTP is 300 watts and you weigh 75kg, your FTP w/kg would be 300/75, or 4 w/kg.) It's possible to check just about any kind of Zwift result using ZwiftPower, with the website sortable by leagues, race series and segments. Zwift lets you adjust the difficulty of your workout, before or even during your ride. Everyone else in the race is riding flat out (your own HR was 174bpm) but these guys are just cruising along watching their watts and are then able toRead more , Not sure its that simple I am a heavy category C racer, and (funnily enough) finished 5th in both my recent Crit City races with average HR of 153 and 150. When I go outdoors I go on a trail bike and bring a backpack full of food and drink for a several hours ride. Thats the reason why a results category would be more interesting like Erics suggested in his topic. nothing more. If you gave the power, it will come out. I mean youve both got a point. Blaming Zwift for eating disorders is not sensible. IfRead more . If thats not something that needs fixing then why run any races? You must be a much better person than me, because thats something I will Never make peace with. Now head back to ZwiftPower, click 'Connect' at the top of the page, then enter your Zwift ID in the box when prompted. This clearly shows the power of the Zwift blob it impacts more than just drafting. .Personally I one of the outliers on height and weight. Im 70 inches tall and 156 pounds right now vs 166lb on Jan 1. Im in the same boat. I hopeRead more . I lost some weight during these few months and gained on FTP Now facing going to C and not getting any good results within the category, Eric, thanks for bringing this to light. Just from riding regularly I went from 166 FTP to 187 in 800 miles over a 2 1/2 months. But youre not affecting anyone elses experience. As others have said, your higher weight helps on flat courses. I am not in the least bit interested in competition cycling, so no point in doping in either direction as i would only be cheating myself. https://zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=697996. Updating Your Privacy Settings in Zwift Companion To update your default privacy settings, sign in to the Zwift Companion (ZC) app on your iOS or Andro. Hes not looking for a trophy every race. At least I can be best in one thing on zwiftpower. No race Chester worth their salt pops in and changed weight ahead of a race, what they do is post the wrong weight and leave it there. Weight would be updated as normal throughout the month. Garmin sets your zones based on your maximum heart rate, while Zwift defines it as 76 to 90 percent of your Functional Threshold Power (FTP), which is the highest power you can sustain for 20 . Perhaps if you post a W/kg in excess ofRead more , So thats why I could easily keep up with a 3-3.4wkg group yesterday whilst keeping my wattage at some 2.5-2.7just my 107kgs.the rest were probably featherweight category :) The categories currently used in most Zwift events are based on your FTP watts per kilo- that is, your FTP in watts, divided by your weight in kilograms. Some races (many, in fact) on Zwift work exactly like that. Blaming Zwift for allowing cheaters is the system problem that gets more people frustrated, upset, etc. I started zwifting about 2 1/2 months ago.I did the ftp test and put in the correct weight.Ive no idea how precise my trainer is tho.what i do know is,Ive managed to go from cat c to a. Zwift posted a follow-up message on the forum, Zwift x UCI To Host Cycling Events for the Olympic Esports Series 2023, Race London ZRacing March Series Details, Notable Zwift Events for the Weekend of March 4-5. Your voice is important to us. And flags height and weight changes if they go up or down alot. This site contains affiliate links to Amazon, Wahoo, and other brands. I have been cycling since I was a kid and now close to 50. How Do I Change My FTP On Zwift? Why you can trust Cyclingnews Zwif: your ultimate guide Which brings me to todays topic: reverse weight doping. Im about to end up in the same situation (last races at 3.99, 3.98 and 3.99 W/kg) and Im not really worried about being promoted to A. Actually no, sorry, I was wrong. Great drafting skills!, Heres the thing: I probably am a fairly efficient racer, when I want to be. More of an issue than thisRead more . Its more fun and engaging that way, for me at least. Currently trying to convince a friend who is new to Zwift not to reverse weight dope. But Its hard to confirm whether or not its transmitting the weight to Zwift. 1 second per 1 km on the AdZ dowhill (after losing minutes going up it) is literally the only place in the game its beneficial and the IRL advantages on the flats over light riders is excessivelyRead more . My best race results as a Zwift B are on flatter routes, and I find my watts per kilo are consistently lower than most of the riders around me. Youre having fun winning (or nearly winning) C races! 2 Likes _Jynxy_EVO (:)) October 1, 2021, 1:41pm #8 thxs mike, Included with this license agreement can be the approval to show height and weight. First up, you'll have to head to Zwift.com and log in, then click on Settings > Profile > Connections and choose 'opt-in' under the ZwiftPower logo. How many cyclists do you see in real life who are 65kgs, but they are ten a penny on Zwift. Conserving energy is a key part of successful bike racing. IRL cycling pros are not exactly heavy weights and lean-ness is highly encouraged. This is done by separating riders based on their FTP (functional threshold power) a wattage test you can take part in on Zwift over a 20-minute, 45-minute or 1-hour period. How about simply showing a percentage variance. otherwise no way in hell hes beating you. Level 50. Im using a quarq crank power meter on my rock and roll while I save up for direct drive. i was just having a similar discussion with my old lady about watts and weights, etc. There are two ways to do this. The key phrase there is have the same W/kg its very easy to boost your W/kg simply tell Zwift you are lighter than you really are. Zwift Insider is independent of Zwift corporate (www.zwift.com), although Zwift does provide funding to help defray site costs. On one occasion I entered a flat race (Laguardia Loop) following my ZP category (class C), finished almost three minutes down (though since it was a small field I still got third place), and then was disqualified for averaging 3.6 w/kg and 206 watts. Why not ride to your strengths? I take issue with the weight doping is okay in none competitive events because of strava. All lists are full of 190cm lads weighting 65kgs. We are new to Zwift and My son Whos 12 has used it to race to make up for his list u12 crit season. I agree with your idea. heavy riders have an advantage on flat courses.. https://zwiftinsider.com/wkg-tests/ plus 60-70kg is perferctly normal body weight for adult cyclists, nothing worth complaining about. ur allowed +/- 5% weight for pro zwift races so +/- 0.5 kg is not going to make a difference :p. add weight if u want to stay in D. lower weight if u wanna move to C. up 2 u. However, I have a lighter and faster son that smokes me head to head. Yes us heavier riders have the downhill advantage definitely. To move up to the next rank, ZwiftPower will take 95 per cent of your 20-minute average w/kg figure from your previous three races. The Tour de Zwift events this year were much moreRead more , Wait. Race them if you want, but Rides like Tour de Zwift are not based on rider category, they are based on distance. This afternoon, Zwift posted a follow-up message on the forum. I currently weigh 59kgs but my BMI is 25 which technically overweight. Keep writing this sort of thing. Id be super interested in the timing you set your weight. 8 months ago I was 96kg, but didntRead more , As a light (58kg) rider racing in the Bs it is very frustrating on flat routes where since the main thing that matters is raw watts and not w/kg I would have to put out well over 4 w/kg to keep up with the heavier guys and therefore I pretty much always get dropped before too long. How do I get started on Zwift? Last week I did the prl full and Uber pretzel and tried to get #1 by weight on those segments. Other planned changes communicated last week, including plans to improve the reporting features in Zwift will be rolled out as planned. angels stadium covid rules. I have tended to notice that a significant number of powerful zwifters real world Strava performances pale in comparison to their online achievements. Bath They CANNOT win. why because of weight, not power. Finally, just head back to ZwiftPower and click 'Connect to my Account'. The first way is to head into your profile. Adjusting Difficulty Before Your Workout. I did on one and second on the other. That was my first thought when a fellow Zwifter commented on my recent race, Somehow you always get your w/kg down. I love reading it. But the vast majority do not. Weight doping is a key challenge for cycling esports to overcome, and its one reason why many big races (e.g., those with prize money) require riders to show up and weigh in on-location in a supervised environment. If it still doesn't work email zwiftpower@zwift.com and they should be able to sort. Youll move a little slower with the added virtual weight, but youll be able to hang with the front of the Cs instead of getting shelled off the back of the Bs. I never reverse weight doped. I may try and snag a couple of cat C golds before taking the break, but definitely wont be reverse weight doping to do so the upgrade to B will be a bigger prize than any gold medal.
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