Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Your details from Facebook will be used to provide you with tailored content, marketing and ads in line with our Privacy Policy. Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. She will be taken to Pennsylvania today to face trial. Hege said Rorrer's baby is with her mother, Patricia Chambers of Lexington. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? Username. So, lets take your response one step at a time. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. I was able to email with Patricia via the PrisonConnect platform around Christmastime. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! Do not sell or share my personal information. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. After reading this forum and hearing the details of this case, Iowa sure seems a lot fairer in my eyes. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. A woman convicted in the 1994 murders of a Catasauquawoman and the victim's 3-month-old son was back in court on Tuesday. She was the one that left Andy! They are total bs. Prince Andrew is refusing to leave his home at Royal Lodge and instead is demanding a mansion "fit for a King", according to royal sources. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. (Panik) Katrinak. Shame on your for defending a vicious killer. Teresa Katrinak is 56 years old and was born on 06/29/1966. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. Buckingham Palace and the Duke of York have been approached by MailOnline for comment. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. No explanation given. I cant lose them, he told the media. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? Username. Its nine minutes into the video. It seems so, according to you. The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. He would be alive today if it were not for Patricia Rorrer. The mild-mannered Sarah died in 2019 at the age of 83. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! American mom living in Paris mesmerizes internet after revealing the VERY surprising after-school snack kids eat in France. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! It makes me sick. Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. I was so excited that I called everyone, and Joanne picked up the phone and she said Andy is married, and I said I know, then she said we have a baby, and I said yea I know, then she said dont ever call here again. I expect she will admit it one day. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. OK my GUESS is Patricia did do it! Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. The news comes after a Romanian court rejected appeals from Mr Tates legal team against a 30-day extension in jail earlier this week. Kidnapped and killed? BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. 'Once you sign up, you do what you're told': Duke of Sussex tells trauma expert Gabor Mat 'a lot of us' in the Army 'didn't necessarily agree or disagree' with the West's invasion of Afghanistan but did 'what you're trained to do', Duke of York is currentlyrefusing to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Windsor Lodge, He proposed torun the Royal Estates, including late mother's beloved Balmoral, he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. It was just assumed to be crib death. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Some lawyers call microscopic hair analysis junk science that today wouldnt qualify as evidence in a trial like Rorrers. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. U.S.M.C. Youll have to make do with what you see here. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! One insider said: 'Andrew is insisting on having a job despite being made to stand down from his duties and now he's being kicked out of his home,' according to The Mirror. We lived close to one another. Patricia is a evil monster. He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Locked up. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. The comments below have been moderated in advance. Name. Now, there are suggestions the family's solution to Andrew potentially losing his home could be to move him into the 'nest egg' Fergie purchased as an investment for their daughters, Princess Beatrice, 34, and Princess Eugenie, 32. Especially mice! Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Conflicting versions. you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. All Filters. None. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). And Patricia wasnt all edges. He said she paid her bills on time, fed his horse along with hers and comforted him when his father died in December. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? Patty is my cousin. Dot Jost, Rorrer's next-door neighbor, had no idea what was going on, although she did see police cars in Rorrer's driveway from time to time. What a lame article. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. ``She sat me down and told me I would probably hear about it,' Myers recalled. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. He lived in 1928, at address, Connecticut. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. 6 people named Andrew Katrinak found in Colorado, Pennsylvania and 3 other states. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? And your appraisal of McIntyre is 100% spot on. Find Andrew Katrinak's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Veronica Barbara Katrinak. Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. The District Attorney got this one right. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. Your email address will not be published. No charmed life. Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. Why not question some of this evidence? No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. False. For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they broke up in 1989. Police took a tearful Rorrer to the Davidson County Jail in Lexington. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. Whatever the truth is. Facebook gives people the power. Mr Steve J She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. Jul 11, 1929 - Sep 10, 2011 (Age 82) Plant Memorial Trees Opens send flowers url in a new window The state police dropped him as a suspect. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. How so? You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. DNA tests showed that strands of hair at the crime scene and in Joann Katrinak's car matched Rorrer's hair. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Both were deceased. Sometimes Teresa goes by various nicknames including Teresa Jean Katrinak, Teresa J Benchini, Teresa J Benckini and Teresa J Katrinak. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Or did they? she didnt need to . Not everything is a conspiracy. . Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. . They were people that knew her, not Andrew. How would an intruder find it? Puny policy. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. "His wish is to attend a prearranged consultation in Dubai . Hashtags such as #FreeTopG and references to Matrix opposition have flooded social media since the influencers arrest in December. A spokesperson for Mr Tate told Mail Online that the 36-year-old was taken to a Romanian clinic because he was not allowed to be monitored by his chosen medical team in Dubai. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. Hoist by your own petard. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. (Nope. The bodies were nearby, said state police Capt. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. The Duke of York is set to lose 250,000-a-year in funding from the King as part of a shake-up of private royal finances and has had to sell off assets including a 19million ski chalet to cover the costs of settling the sex scandal case with Virginia Roberts Giuffre - a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. Search is on. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. As Prince Harry says he felt like the film 'the boy in the bubble' before having therapy, who was 12-year-old David Vetter whose tragic story inspired the documentary? They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. Deputies watched the house as often as they could - from the woods, the road and even from the air. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. The real killer is Rorrer! Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. Claps! Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. Phone records dont lie.) I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. I dont think so. Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. Jealousy was the motive. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. Walmart woe. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Officers escort Andrew Tate, centre, and his brother Tristan Tate to the Court of Appeal in Bucharest. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Flaw in reasoning. Neighbors remember seeing her place the child on horses for short rides. This article is little more than fiction. Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. In recent weeks, the King has reportedly asked all members of the royal family to tighten their belts and to expect less money from the Duchy now owned by Charles than in the past. ``They let 'em know who's boss.'. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. Search by Name Search . All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. ): They boast glorious ocean views, but swathes of homes along America's coastlines are at risk of tumbling off CLIFFS due to erosion, rising sea levels and extreme weather events, Are YOU guilty of these gym sins? of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. This isn't Rorrer's first brush with the law. Prince Andrew has offered to manage some of the prestigious Royal estates as part of his negotiations to leave his Royal mansion, Royal insiders have claimed that the King said 'there is no chance' of Andrew being allowed to manage the Royal estates, The Duke of York had offered to take over the management of Balmoral Castle - his late mother's beloved summer residence.
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